Jump to content

Recommended Posts

У меня есть несколько бельгийцев в моей коллекции фотографий, вот три фото где можно увидеть подобные формы. :smile:


Спасибо! Что Бельгия уже разобрались,убедиться бы в моем предположении что это кавалерист :blush:

Link to post
Share on other sites

Вернулся я к своей "артиллерийской" версии и выяснил, что в Льеже была расквартирована 5-я резервная батарея 3-го артиллерийского полка из состава 3-й дивизии бельгийской армии. На головном уборе - цифра "5" + оттиск фотоателье г.Льеж...

А вообще самое грамотное в данной ситуации - изучить матчасть на сайте http://1914-18.be/

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 7 months later...
  • 4 months later...

Ответа не знаю, но попробую порассуждать. Круглая кокарда на тулье по расцветке напоминает баварскую, лев тоже. Какой-то баварский чиновник или член местной организации?

Фотография послевоенная?

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 6 months later...

By choosing the British shade of khaki for their uniforms in 1915, Belgium could rapidly purchase from the U.K. the vast quantities of cloth required to re-uniform her Army.


This photograph from my collection shows a Lieutenant/Luitenant (identified by the two gilt stars on each collar patch) of an unidentified unit with his wife, circa 1915-22. He is wearing the Model 1915 khaki uniform, which for officers, as we see here, was very close in cut to the British Army’s Officers’ Service Dress (except for the stand collar), even following British practice of Officers having breeches of lighter shade than the tunic. Completing the British ‘look’, this Officer wears a ‘Sam Browne’ belt, which was regulation wear. However, unlike British practice, Belgian Officers were forbidden to wear puttees, instead being restricted to high leather leggings.


Officers’ tunics were of a universal pattern (although this man’s privately tailored example has seven buttons rather than the usual six!), with arm-of-service being differentiated by piped collar patches, and piping on shoulder straps, pointed cuffs, and breeches, plus the addition of arm-of-service insignia on the shoulder straps. This insignia was repeated on the band of the khaki peaked cap, which also bore arm-of-service piping around the crown. However, the fact that Line Infantry, Chasseurs á pied, Carabiniers, Chasseurs á cheval, and Lancers, all wore their regimental number in Arabic numerals on their cap as arm-of-service insignia makes it difficult, on a black and white photograph, to identify the unit. We can just make out a numeral ‘3’ on this man’s cap, under the Belgian cockade . . . so, to which regiment does he belong?


Luckily, we have another piece of diagnostic evidence available, i.e. his sabre. It is definitely not the regulation sabre d'officier d'infanterie modèle 1889; instead, it does look very much like the sabre de cavalerie légère modèle 1822/83-94. However, this only muddies the waters, as the trouble with this man being an Officer of the 3e régiment de lanciers/3de Regiment Lansiers (there being no 3rd regiment of Chasseurs á cheval) is the fact that his collar patches should be white, piped royal-blue. Given the shade of the collar patches in this photograph, and because there was no 3rd regiment of Carabiniers, we are left with the option that this man was either an infantry Officer from the 3e régiment de ligne/3de Linieregiment (scarlet patches piped royal-blue, royal-blue piping elsewhere), or a rifles Officer from the 3e régiment de chasseurs à pied/3de Regiment Jagers te Voet (green patches piped yellow, yellow piping elsewhere), who for whatever reason, carried a non-regulation sabre (perhaps he had been transferred . . .).


Edited by cmf
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 4 months later...
  • 1 year later...

На последнем фото обычный военнослужащий бельгийской армии с эмблемой инженерных войск на петлицах. Межвоенный период. Эмблема вот такая:


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 2 years later...

Если позволите, добавлю к разговору выше, о странных белых петличках, не то кавалериста, не то артиллериста.

Долго искал, чья может быть форма, на этом фото, пока не попал сюда!

Кители очень похожи на бельгийские, но что за вышивки на рукавах??? Увидел здесь, на форуме нечто похожее у Датчан (по форме, но не по содержанию) - http://www.forum.ant...rk/page__st__20

В целом, публика очень разномастная. Жаль, что качество фото не позволяет рассмотреть повнимательнее детали.




Edited by SWRUS
Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Create New...